Voice Artist, Author and R&B DJ/Enthusiast Cayman Kelly

August 04, 2021 ESPN PR
Voice Artist, Author and R&B DJ/Enthusiast Cayman Kelly
Voice Artist, Author and R&B DJ/Enthusiast Cayman Kelly
Aug 04, 2021

Welcome to Episode 7 of the ESPN PRod Pod, the official podcast of the ESPN Communications Department. The PRod Pod takes you behind ESPN’s unmatched storytelling by introducing the people behind the content – who they are, where they’re from and how they create the magic. 

One year ago, when voice artist, author and R&B DJ/enthusiast Cayman Kelly added the title of “Voice of ESPN Radio” to his already impressive resume, he took the opportunity to reflect a bit: “I have turned to [ESPN] as a fan for years,” he said. “Now, to suddenly be a part of the sports magic is surreal! I’m extremely thankful for the opportunity.”  

Likewise, Communications Associate Producer Jon McLeod was thankful to have had the time he and ESPN Fan Relations Senior Coordinator Kiana Lowe shared with Kelly earlier this summer for this episode on the PRod Pod

From his youth in DC to his never-give-up approach in navigating the audio business, Cayman shouts out his wife for helping him follow his dream and in Lowe’s “Fab 5,” he offers some vocal exercises to help all levels of voice artists or public speakers. 

As he tells McLeod, “I need to share this story to inspire somebody not just for personal gain. That’s my biggest goal is to invest in another human life.” 

Invest your time with a listen to the “PRod Pod, Episdoe 7.” 

Cayman on IG; Cayman on Twitter and Cayman’s Book 




Show Notes Transcript

Welcome to Episode 7 of the ESPN PRod Pod, the official podcast of the ESPN Communications Department. The PRod Pod takes you behind ESPN’s unmatched storytelling by introducing the people behind the content – who they are, where they’re from and how they create the magic. 

One year ago, when voice artist, author and R&B DJ/enthusiast Cayman Kelly added the title of “Voice of ESPN Radio” to his already impressive resume, he took the opportunity to reflect a bit: “I have turned to [ESPN] as a fan for years,” he said. “Now, to suddenly be a part of the sports magic is surreal! I’m extremely thankful for the opportunity.”  

Likewise, Communications Associate Producer Jon McLeod was thankful to have had the time he and ESPN Fan Relations Senior Coordinator Kiana Lowe shared with Kelly earlier this summer for this episode on the PRod Pod

From his youth in DC to his never-give-up approach in navigating the audio business, Cayman shouts out his wife for helping him follow his dream and in Lowe’s “Fab 5,” he offers some vocal exercises to help all levels of voice artists or public speakers. 

As he tells McLeod, “I need to share this story to inspire somebody not just for personal gain. That’s my biggest goal is to invest in another human life.” 

Invest your time with a listen to the “PRod Pod, Episdoe 7.” 

Cayman on IG; Cayman on Twitter and Cayman’s Book 




Cayman Kelly: This is the ESPN PRod Pod. 

Jon McLeod: What's up, everybody. You are listening to the ESPN PRod Pod. I'm your host, Jon McLeod. This is the podcast that goes behind the scenes on the content you love, the people that create it and everything in between. Today, the voice himself. Every single show you hear him introduce us, send us to segments, and take us home. The one and only, my man, Cayman Kelly. Cayman, what's up, baby? What's going on? 

Cayman Kelly: Yes, sir. Man, I like that intro, brother. I almost had to look and see where he was. 

Jon McLeod: You know me, I'm just trying to be like you out here. I need that powerful, booming voice. God done blessed you with that voice, man. They'll hear you down under. Everywhere they hear you, man. Good Lord, every time I hear that, I'm like, man, that thing must sound natural, man. Cayman, tell me where you're from. 

Cayman Kelly: I'm a Washingtonian. Yeah. So I'm from DC, the nation's capitol. 

Jon McLeod: Talk to me about how it was growing up in DC. 

Cayman Kelly: Oh man, growing up was good, man. I was a bit of a shy kid, so it was always timidity for me. So I didn't really kind of blossom until later on, going to college  and getting the whole social aspect of independency. Always dare to be different. It was just a part of my personality naturally to be different. And of course people that don't understand differences, they tease you and bully you. So I went through that whole thing with growing up. But it never affected me in a way where I couldn't function. And I think living life made me self-aware of what life was all about. And then I realized myself that, man, if I don't start speaking  up, this life ain't going to be no good. You know what I mean? Nobody's ever going to recognize the gifts that I have. I was always in that creative space. I always wanted to create. Wasn't the best student in the world just because my mind was always elsewhere. I just wanted to create things. So I figured it out, man. Still figuring it out. That's what life is all about. 

Jon McLeod: Amen to that. Amen to that. When did you realize, you know what, I'm going to have to speak up, or else I'm going to get drowned out by the crowd? 

Cayman Kelly: I think one of the things, because I  didn't mind being by myself, but it's always other people that kind of point things out to you and make you aware. And also, like I mentioned, living life. So I think one of the instances that happened, and this was moons ago, I started doing music with some of my close friends. And I actually taught myself how to play keyboards. I could do drum patterns and all that kind of stuff. So he gave me another form of creativity. And we started going out and performing in different places we were invited perform. Ended up at a radio station. So going to the radio station, I was looking around like, man, I could do this. I like this. So that kind of sparked my interest.

And then being around it, and then going to college, I guess, being social. And that kind of opened it up for me. But when I started looking for a job, that's when it sparked. Man, if I don't speak up, nobody's ever going to realize the gifts that I have. So I had to overcome my timidity. So I learned things about myself. And I still deal  with it. You know what I mean? Because I'm shy by nature. And I don't like small groups of people. Because you figure most people be like, "Man, I never believed that you were shy." And you probably wouldn't because I talk to everybody now, but it's a way that I go about doing. So what I do, I don't like small groups. It intimidates me because of the intimacy. So yeah, when I walk in, I've been blessed with this gift of humor, so I crack a joke. Everybody start laughing. So it kind of pushes all that off of me and I feed off of their energy that  way. So that's how I'm able to overcome it. And I beat this guy out because I always recognize his timidity already. 

So it was like one day when I come in, there's a guy sitting in my seat, man. He was an intern. I had already graduated from college. And sitting there looking like where this dude come from? So I heard somebody whisper to him that there was a job that was opening up in promotions. They said, "Man, I suggest you go back there and give them your name." So of course where he went, I went too. I dropped my name. And that next day  we went out into the street, man, I was in everybody's face. What's up? How y'all doing? Let me get you something, something, something, something. Here you go. So of course, with them seeing how I worked, and seeing my work ethic and that I wasn't afraid, they said, "We want to offer you the job." 

So that was really kind of the start of my career in radio, and those valuable lessons. I'm going to tell you how this happened. My program director, I was working in promotions. So you said, "Dude, you want to work?" And I say, "Yeah, I want to work." Because I mean, we were at work, so I don't know what he was talking about. He said, "All right. Go home. Get some rest. You're on the air tonight." What? And that's exactly how it happened. So of course I went to Circuit City, bought me some new headphones. I called everybody that I knew and told them I'm about to be on the radio tonight. 

Jon McLeod: That's great. 

Cayman Kelly: [crosstalk 00:05:12] 2:00 in the morning. And just because somebody was sick, man. So really trying to put yourself in position to receive is what this thing is all about. So when that opportunity opened up for me, and I did it for so many months. And he came to me, he said, "Dude, we were doing a review." He said, "Man, you're a great guy. Everybody loves you." He said, "  But your follow up is weak." And I said, "What you mean by that?" He said, "Man, listen. If you don't speak up for yourself, we will roll right over you." Man, I never forgot that lesson. 

And I said, "Well, I thought I did a good job that you would come to me, and say, 'You're doing a good job. We want to offer this to you.'" He said, "No, it doesn't work like that. Nothing in life works like that. If you don't speak up for yourself, people think that you're satisfied in a space where you're in. They're never going to come to and say, 'Man, let me give you some more money.' You got to make it known that [that's what you want." And that lesson alone stood out so much to me. And I still live by that to this very day. 

Jon McLeod: I'm so curious, man, you got one of the most powerful voices that I've ever heard. When did you find out that you had the voice? Did you wake up one day with this voice superpower, and started bellowing to people? Or was it a gradual change? 

Cayman Kelly: You know what's funny, man? I was thinking about this very thing the other day. Because we used to call my grandmother lived in North Carolina,  right? Either my sister or I would be on the phone. And she said, "Which baby is this?" We both had high voices. Then when I got about 12, my voice started changing. And it was like a change that was crazy. Of course it would crack, and go in and out. But everybody would be like, "How old are you? Your voice is crazy." And then once it stayed like that, that's would I start getting teased. People would like, "What's up, Lurch?" It didn't make me self-conscious at all, man, because I started to realize that this is really a gift. 

And I'm going to tell you something that's crazy, man, how this whole radio thing kind of ties in. So when we go, my buddy, he was rapping, right? So he calls the radio station. And then called me. He said, "Man, I'm about to be on the radio." So he was rapping about a promotion that they did. And lo and behold, the guy that was on the air invites us up to the radio station. So we go to a radio station, man. And the production dude's like, he said, "Man, how old are you? Your voice is crazy." So he was like, "Read this for me." And I read the script for him. And then just [being around radio, this was when I was in 10th grade, man, and being around just in a radio station and seeing people. 

There was a guy that did voiceovers. He still does it to this very day. And he would always tell him, because he always sounded like he was on the air when he talked, right. He was like, "Man, you need to be doing something with your pipes." And I said, "What do I need to do?" But he would never tell me what it was that I was supposed to be doing. So you got to figure in this industry it's so small, and there's so much competition. And nobody wants to put you up as competition against them. You start taking jobs from them and whatever. I operate in a totally different philosophy because I feel like whatever God has for me is going to be for me. And you can't take that from me. So I share. There's plenty for all of us to get. 

Jon McLeod: Man, you telling me at 12. I can't remember what I was doing at 12 years old. It wasn't thinking about no gift. I didn't even know if I had a gift. 12 years old? What I find amazing, though, is how you knew it was your gift. And you went in on it from day one and started asking questions.  What was the moment where you learned how to use your gift effectively? 

Cayman Kelly: Oh man. I mean it's a continuous learning process because things are ever changing. But I think what I've learned over the years, Jon, subconsciously, I try not to watch what everybody does. Because I'm in a place of authenticity and uniqueness. I don't want to be like somebody else's. But I wrote this book. It's right here. It's called from $6 an Hour to a Million Dollar Dream. So the $6  an hour part, this title came to me while I was asleep one night because that's the very place where I started. And you talking about a dude who had graduated from college. My first job paid me $6 an hour in major market radio. Now I talk about it in this book. $6 an hour. But they only paid for four hours per day, which gave you $24. Man, you could pay me that out your pocket. 

And I wrote this chapter about haters and naysayers in this book. And of course the haters being a necessary part of your journey. [But the naysayers are the actual people who care about you, and they don't want to see you get hurt in this process of trying to pursue your dreams and reach your goals. So a naysayer could be your parent. Man, my father in particular. He's, "Man, when are you going to get yourself a real job. Man, you need to get you a car," and all this stuff. I didn't want to hear that because I knew where my mindset was, and I knew where I was going. 

So that $6 an hour wasn't a deterrent for me. I said, "This is a starting point. I just need somebody to give me an opportunity. I can turn this into something if I'm visible. I can't start back here and nobody ever see what I have." It's kind of like you writing the world's greatest love song, but you put it underneath your bed. Who's going to know? You know what I mean? And this book, man, I've done thousands of interviews over the course of my career being on the radio. And I started thinking about all of these artists and the similarities that they share in their story. 

I wrote about  Al B. Sure! in particular. He was a star quarterback in high school. He went to Mount Vernon with Heavy D and all them on the same team. He got a full ride to Iowa. He turned it down to do music, and look what happened. So we have to be true to ourselves. It can't always be like what people expect us to be. Because it's too much conventionalism, and that's what causes so much stress, depression and anxiety because people are always telling us what we're supposed to be. And we never learned to live our authentic  life. 

Jon McLeod: How did you deal with that when you heard it from your dad, the friction, when it came to your dream? 

Cayman Kelly: Well, I mean, I just kept pushing, man. So it has to be those things where we're able to turn down the noise. And people who aren't able to do that for themselves, they have to surround themselves with like-minded people that can be that support. And I don't want to paint my parents in a negative light because they were always very supportive. But like I said, it was one of those things where you don't want to see your child get hurt. What if that dream,  that's a big goal, that's a big dream, will he ever be able to accomplish that? There's a lot of competition. 

And I'll back up even further than that, Jon. I remember being in college and sitting in a classroom, and people will come in to speak. And I remember specifically, there was a guy that came in. He said, "I used to sit in those same desks that you guys are sitting in. I had dreams of being this big radio host. Got out of school. I tried to get those jobs. I'm going to tell you folks, it just doesn't happen." Why would you come in and tell somebody that? 

Jon McLeod: Yeah. I don't want to hear that. 

Cayman Kelly: Just because that's what happened to you doesn't necessarily mean that's what somebody else career path would end up like. And I think all of that building, man. I always had this spirit of discernment where I could see, and I'm like, man, that don't make sense to me. I'm pushing past that. And I think when we so passionate about stuff and we find out what our purpose in life is all about, man, it gives you all that motivation to keep moving. 

I don't want to make it seem like it was a perfect journey, like I ain't had no obstacles, because I did. I mean, there was plenty of times when I was like, man. I used to tell my dad, "I think I chose the wrong thing to do. This ain't working out." And he said, "Son," he said, "one day you going to look back at this and laugh." And I said, "Well, shoot, I'll be glad when it get funny? Because this ain't funny, man. I'm hating this right now." So I mean, I taught school for a while, or substituted, just so I could control my schedule because I had to be around that radio station. And I knew, man. I said, this has got to turn into something. 

But here's the story that I was going to share with you. And I talk about people that's like-minded and supportive people. So when I got married, and my wife and been married for 19 years. We bought a house. We built the house actually. So we moved in. We spent the night. My attorney calls me the next day, and she said, "I don't have good news." She was like, "Your job is about to fold up in a month." "What?" I said, "Oh my God, man." But I wasn't worried because I had another offer of a job that they wanted to get me on. So we was in the middle of the negotiation. [That didn't end up panning out. 

So I'm sitting there like, oh my God. These are the worst days of my life. I just married this woman. I got a house that I got to pay for. What in the world am I going to do? You know what I mean? But here's how God works, man. When you put somebody in your life that you supposed to be connected to, she was the disciplined one. Always disciplined with her money and everything. She said, "It'll be fine. It'll work out." She was doing her residency at the time. So that was really where my voiceover career was birthed. It was something that I always wanted to do, but I didn't know how. And it came in. And people came in. They said, "Man, can you voice this for us?" And I was like, "Yeah, cool." So I started voicing. And then later on I became the voice of BET. This was all in a year's period. 

So me focused on that job that I was losing, I lost sight of the fact that I had created two other avenues of income, right? Because I was so focused here, I couldn't see the bigger picture. So here I am, I'm Googling stuff every night. I'm sitting up in their basement [ crying, man, just by myself. Writing and trying to find somebody that I could train to get better with voiceover. And I find this guy named Ed Green, one of the biggest voiceover artists. Man, he did movie trailers, commercials, all kinds of stuff. So he calls me back. I had to do an audition for him. 

And he called back. And we talked probably like an hour, man. He was just pointing out stuff that was wrong. He said, "Did you realize you hold your breath when you talk?" And I said, "No." But that came  from me doing a slow jam show because I would try to growl on the microphone. I would hold my voice like, "Yes, 93..." Like I would talk like that. And he said, "Your voice is already deep. All you need to do is talk." And I said, "Damn." So he helped me a lot. He coached me, right? 

So he said, "Man, I'll be willing to work with you one-on-one. I think you got a potential to be one of the best in the industry, man, because you're a great mimic." So of course this comes with a price tag. And I got a job that I'm about to lose. And [I said, "Man, I got stuff that I got to take care of." So I was like, "Man, I ain't going to be able to do it right now." But here's where my wife comes in. She said, "Did you sign up for that class yet?" "Nah." I said, "I'm going to do it, but I got to make sure everything around here is taken care of. That's my priority." 

She said, "Look, this is what we going to do. I got to check upstairs that I haven't even endorsed yet." She said, "I'm going to sign that over to you. You sign up for your class." And I said, "No, no, no. You don't have to do that." She said, "Listen, this is what [ I'm going to do because I believe in you, and I'm going to make this investment for us." Bro, I told this story just yesterday, I broke down and cried because it's so impactful to have somebody like that in your corner. You know what I mean? It's very necessary. 

Because of that investment that she made in me years ago, here we are at this point now where I've become the voice of Bounce TV, TV Land, Cartoon Network, of course, ESPN. I did Monday Night Football last season. All of these things that have come along with the journey. I'm seeing the fruits of my labors, of the seeds that I planted years ago. And here we are. And it didn't pop immediately. Because I was still in my head telling myself, man, am I really good enough to be doing this? 

And I took this marketing class, Jon, and this dude was like, "We're going to listen to everybody's demo tonight." And I said, Lord, please don't listen to mine, for whatever reason. Like I had to leave, right? So this dude was like, "I'm really busy. I got work to do. So maybe four weeks, I'll get in touch with you." Man, this dude called me the next day telling me how great my demos were and stuff. He was like, "Man, you could definitely work. You will definitely work the New York market." And I was like, "What?" He left a message, right? I kept playing that thing. I couldn't believe it, right? Kept playing it over and over again. I was like, come on, man. This is crazy. And here we are years later. Like I said, those seeds that were planted, man. and it's hearing other people confirm it because we can be our worst critics. We get in our own way a lot of times. You throw your hands up and walk away. But it don't put you any closer to where you want to be. 

Jon McLeod: Man, you preaching today. Now we're in the moment going into the future. You've already hit so many goals. What is the most important one to you right now? 

Cayman Kelly: Boy, that's a loaded question, boy. That's heavy. 

Jon McLeod: Take your time with it, baby. Take your time with it. 

Cayman Kelly: No, I'm going to tell you something because this feels like it came full circle. You know my thing is, Jon, I don't feel like we ever really arrive. And here's why I think like that. Because if we feel like we arrive, then we don't have anything left to accomplish. You know what I mean? And then we sit back and we do this. Because we start to get in our comfort zone. And that's happened to me so many times, man. Because my wife, when we were dating, and she would always ask me, "What's your five-  year plan?" And I said, "Oh, I'm going to be here at this radio station. I'm going to be working." 

And then when I looked, she was like, "Oh, I guess I'm not included in your plans, right?" And then I was like, "Oh, no, no, no. I didn't mean it like that." But here's where we go wrong. And men are guilty of this way more than women. We identify ourselves by what we do. But that's not who we are. 

Jon McLeod: [crosstalk 00:18:50]. 

Cayman Kelly: You know what I mean? So at this stage of the game, if I had to set a goal, my goal now is legacy. This pandemic really makes you focus in a different way. What is life about? What is it? What am I going to leave behind for the betterment of somebody else? Because we ain't going to live forever. And that's why one of the things that I wanted to accomplish that was on my bucket list was completing this book. And it was kind of for selfish reasons in the beginning. But I always get a lesson out of things as I do them. So I was like, well, if I write this book, people will view me as an expert, and I could garner more business attention from this, right?

So  I'm talking to the book publishing people. And I said, "That's my goal, but then I want to inspire somebody." He said, "That's two different books." I said, "What do you mean?" He said, "The way you would structure a business book would be totally different than what you would do as an inspirational book." And I said, "Huh?" So of course when I hang up the phone, I'm confused. This guy had reached out to me. I spoke to a class at Morgan State University five years prior. One of the students reached out to me the day before I had this  conversation with these book people, right? And he said, "Man, I remember some of the things that you said, and I really want to talk to you." He was teaching English. But he said, "That's not what I want to do. I really want to pursue my dreams. I want to do the things that make me happy." I said, "Call me. Let's talk." 

We talked for about an hour. When he got ready to hang up the phone, he said, "Mr. Kelly," he said, "man, thank you so much for this." He said, "You just don't realize how you have motivated me. And I'm about to get started right now." Man, when I hung up the phone, I said, oh my God. This dude talked about how much I blessed him. But he don't realize how much he just blessed me because it made me realize right then that that's what I'm supposed to be doing. I need to share this story to inspire somebody, not just for personal gain. That's my biggest goal is to invest in another human life. Like we said earlier, I got three kids, man. I want them to look back, and say, man, look what my daddy did. Can I pattern my life after him? Don't be him. Be authentic with who you are because each one of us is created to be unique. 

Jon McLeod: That is priceless. Absolutely priceless. Cayman now, you have bumped shoulders with some of the best of the best. Celebrities, athletes. But in those interactions and having worked with them, what are the lessons that you've taken away with people at that level? 

Cayman Kelly: Man, Jon, there is so many. But I think is that these are just people. It's just people. None of us are better than each other, man. When you start  to get down to the people that's underneath that celebrity, because celebrity comes with a high price tag, man. 

Jon McLeod: That's right. 

Cayman Kelly: You know what I'm saying? You long to do simple things in your life because being a celebrity is so heavy. It's so demanding that it kind of sucks the life out of you. You think about greats, like Marvin Gaye that came up in the 60s. Marvin did drugs and all kinds of stuff to fill them voids in his life. And then one time he said, "Man, I had to leave and just take a sabbatical." He went to another country where nobody knew him so he could have a bit of normalcy to his life. And these are the lessons that I've learned rom being around these people. Strip them down, they just like me and you. 

Now it's time for the fab five. 

Kiana Lowe: Hi Cayman. Thank you for joining us today, and welcome to the fab five segment. First question, if you could be great at any sport, what would it be? 

Cayman Kelly: Football. 

Kiana Lowe: Okay. Okay. I can see that. Have you played? 

Cayman Kelly: I have many moons ago. 

Kiana Lowe: All right. Came and you have done voiceovers for movies, TV shows, podcasts and more. Which are your favorite, and why? 

Cayman Kelly: Promos because they're quick. 

Kiana Lowe: Okay. Well that's a good reason. So as a voiceover artists and a radio show host, teach us how to be as great as you. What does your warmups look like? 

Cayman Kelly: Wow. You know what? I don't have like a specific thing that I do. I get up at 4:00 each morning. And the reason why is just so I could spend some time by myself. And I guess I start talking. And then there's a couple of exercises. Because some days I can't get the words out. I have those moments too, where I'm like, dang. Go on. I can't even get through this sentence. So there's a technique that's called EMOTE, which is extreme mouth opening technique exercises. So say I took my book and I kept stumbling through this. So I would just go From $6 an Hour to a Million Dollar Dream. So I would go From $6  an Hour to a Million Dollar Dream. And believe it or not, I don't know if it's psychological or nothing, when I started reading it, I could flow right back through it. Because you don't really concentrate on how you're supposed to be reading it. 

Another thing is you can read backwards, the opposite of the way we would normally read because you're not paying attention to punctuation, anything like that. And you get a better flow. And then I'll tell you one more thing, there's a thing that's called triggers, where you can actually make stuff come to life because you look at copy. Your like, ooh, this just sounded like this. In my mind it sounds like this. But let me do it like this too. Because triggers go like this. 

Okay. Kiana, I want you to read From $6 an Hour to a Million Dollar Dream. You ready? Go. Angry. You'd be like, From $6 an Hour to a Million Dollar Dream. You kind of fold your arm. So it's like all acting. All right. Kiana, I want you to read From $6 an Hour to a Million Dollar Dream, but give me sentimental. So you're like From $6 an Hour to a Million Dollar Dream. Well Kiana, give me sad on that. From $6 an Hour to a Million Dollar Dream. You know? So it gives you different emotion, but you have to put yourself in that space to be able to get it out. It's all part of the process. You got to really put your spin to it when you do it. 

Kiana Lowe: Wow, man. You had me thinking that I was at an improv show for a second [there. Speaking of acting, you have quite the acting career yourself. You were in a great franchise for the culture that did amazingly well, Barbershop: The Next Cut. 

Cayman Kelly: Yeah. 

Kiana Lowe: How was that? 

Cayman Kelly: That was fun. Oh my God. It was so much fun. So it was funny because when I first did the session, I did it from home. So this was all in post-production. So Malcolm D. Lee, who was directing the movie, he called. And he said, "Yeah, I want to do these lines right here." So I knocked the lines out, sent them back. He was like, "Damn,  that was quick, man." So when they placed it in the movie, and then he said, "Yo, we going to change a couple of lines," and blah, blah, blah. So I shot up to New York same day. Like boom, we're in the studio. 

He said, "Man." He had planned to be there all evening, but I ain't going to take all evening. I mean, this is what I do. So it was this big screen in there like a movie screen. And I saw the lion come on and roar, so they had the whole movie on it. He said, " Don't be nervous or anything, but you're going to be the first voice that people hear when the movie's come on. No pressure." So I was like, "Cool." So I go in there, I bang them out. And he said, "Man, I'm going to call my wife to tell her we can still go to dinner then." That was so much fun. I've done some sessions that were really fun. I did a, what's the name of the game? 

Kiana Lowe: Grand Theft Auto V. That's my favorite game of the whole series. I was hoping you'd get to it. You beat me to my next question. What was that like? 

Cayman Kelly: I've never played the game before, but man, that session was so much fun because it was so secretive. I couldn't tell anybody I was doing it. 

Kiana Lowe: Really? 

Cayman Kelly: Yeah. So he was like, he said, "Where's your studio?" I said, "It's in my basement." "Is anybody else around?" I said, "No." He said, "Okay." He said, "When we record, you send me the file, and you destroy the link once I get it." That was how secrets this was. I couldn't keep it on my hard drive or anything. You see why. Because this was a billion dollars selling game. In a couple of days, this thing was at a billion dollars. 

Kiana Lowe: I understand the secrecy because I patiently waited to give them my dollars. 

Cayman Kelly: You got yours in there? 

Kiana Lowe: I sure did, gladly. 

Cayman Kelly: You know what's funny? With some sessions, and I think what makes them fun, is some of them are so different from each other and it puts me in a different space. So some of these things that have cuss words in it, I don't know what it is, but it was so enlightening to able to cuss in a script. It just made it fun for some reason. I don't know what it is. 

Kiana Lowe: Okay. So for our last and final question, you have worked with some heavy hitters from Jay-Z to Usher to India.Arie to Stevie Wonder. What is your favorite genre of music? 

Cayman Kelly: I would have to say R&B. I love R&B music just because I mean, I still do a show on Sirius XM every day, and I'm playing R&B music. And so that's one of my passions. I just never wanted to separate from it. This still frees my soul. 

Kiana Lowe: As an R&B buff myself, I completely agree. R&B will definitely do that for you. That is the end of our fab five segment today. Thank you, Cayman, for joining us. 

Cayman Kelly: That was all five already? 

Kiana Lowe: That was five. 

Cayman Kelly: Give five more then. 

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